[–]sandyph 11 points12 points13 points 8 months ago (1 child), yeah, the only time I saw my 'culture' in a video games is when Nathan Drake mow them down in Uncharted 1, [–]Gotisdabest 395 points396 points397 points 8 months ago (106 children). Ghost of Tsushima Theme Music Flute v Performance at E3 2018 Online Rockerz 1,065 views Best Mom Eva … [–]invaderark12 13 points14 points15 points 8 months ago (1 child). When we grow up in the same environment and culture through all of our lives, we tend to appreciate it less because it becomes something common to us. [–]Mesk_Arak 87 points88 points89 points 8 months ago (1 child). On the wide end of the spectrum, you can shoot at … One glaringly obvious example is taking a sacred thing, like a native american headress, and turning it into a mass produced halloween costume for profit. How did you forget to mention the greatest take on American culture in all of gaming came out of Japan; motherfucking Metal Wolf Chaos. Edit: Coming into the thread now that my comment is at the top, it does seem like I'm complaining about a thing that hasn't even happened. [–]GoddamnKeyserSoze 49 points50 points51 points 8 months ago (9 children), Assassin's Creed isn't really about assassins anymore, is it? Which had journalists and certain sections of social media in an uproar because it was created by a western game developer (Sucker Punch Productions) which meant it was cultural appropriation by evil westerners: Please explain. [–]SaucyWildcat 121 points122 points123 points 8 months ago (22 children), [–]Bhu124 76 points77 points78 points 8 months ago (19 children). Do not solicit votes for your posts. [–]Blue_z 1269 points1270 points1271 points 8 months ago (129 children). Is it anything like the latest Assassin's Creed games? Honestly I legit think they're avoiding the country. [–]KarmaCharger5 95 points96 points97 points 8 months ago (2 children). I don't know why I'm laughing so hard at this. QuestionPossible cultural appropriation? No, he’s multiculturalism, because he takes their powers in and becomes stronger. Kind of similar to this - Kung Fu Panda was beloved in China, with Chinese critics asking why a foreign film was better at showing their country's beauty than domestic films. We like seeing foreigners in Kimono. Fucking love samurai champloo. Afro-Samurai, Otoyomegatari, numerous titles that incorporate Chinese folklore or mysticism, event stuff like Fullmetal Alchemist that borrows heavily from western culture for its setting. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: The goal of /r/Games is to provide a place for informative and interesting gaming content and discussions. And also Another Century's Episode, which is a mecha crossover game that features a lot of different mecha anime a la Super Robot Wars. The roosterteeth people have gotten so annoying the last couple years. Meanwhile, Reddit and Twitter exploded with debate on whether him being a White man playing the flute in a Japanese garb qualified as “cultural appropriation.” Advertisement [–]breakfastclub1 14 points15 points16 points 8 months ago (1 child). It was so full of itself that i couldnt read it all, [–]Narishma 5 points6 points7 points 8 months ago (0 children). ", [–]joetothejack 9 points10 points11 points 8 months ago (2 children). That's an... interesting take. I’m assuming they are playing all over the difficulty scale. Ghost of Tsushima is based on a historical Japanese setting, and developer Sucker Punch has invested extra effort into representing the backdrop accurately. [–]aneccentricgamer[] 107 points108 points109 points 8 months ago (8 children), [–]Sparrowcus 236 points237 points238 points 8 months ago (25 children), Not people. Japan, Germany and Mexico are basically exempt from the whole cultural appropriation thing. Off-Topic Posting It’s hilarious that Japanese reviewers are praising the game while this guy is flailing around trying to defend their culture for them. Hey satan00! [–]MeteoraGB 37 points38 points39 points 8 months ago (16 children). I mean it pretty much is Japan. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. they are just fucking normal names. Its not like they have zero insight on making something with Japanese samurai. [–]stanfordlouie 71 points72 points73 points 8 months ago (4 children), [–]UnassumingAnt 22 points23 points24 points 8 months ago (1 child). Shortly after the presentation was over a woman went on twitter and claimed that the Sony committed cultural appropriation by having a non Japanese man preform on the Shakuhachi flute, for the Ghost of Tsushima reveal, while wearing traditional Japanese wardrobe for the reveal of a Japanese game. I believe someone said there is a easy, normal, and hard. I was thinking about how Ghost of Tsushima must seem to a Japanese person. [–]toolschism 46 points47 points48 points 8 months ago (16 children). This is one of the most overly long, insufferable reviews I’ve ever seen. They probably said nothing about that of any Assassin's Creed games either even though they've been doing the same idea for years. This one-man army is single handily capable of fighting off an entire Mongol Horde in Sucker Punch’s newest … I'm pretty goddamn progressive, but that's just silly. As I scroll through this thread, all that is left is outrage about the supposed outrage about the supposed outrage. Makes me think of the "try on a kimono" nontroversy where a bunch of asian-americans (many of them not of Japanese descent) were complaining that it aproppriates Japanese culture, but when it got plastered all over the news here the general reaction was "why would we be offended? Cultural appropriation isn't a thing in Japan, they're going to see it for it is, which is a loving tribute to Japanese culture and history, made with care and respect. Ghost of Tsushima's combat is horrendous, sorry; Topic Archived; First; Previous; Page . © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. - Page 3. His super power is literally appropriating stuff, so... [–]Matasa89 17 points18 points19 points 8 months ago (0 children). Both play on stereotypes for sure, but in a respectful way that injects the perspective of their respective cultures in an interesting way. [–]canceler80 47 points48 points49 points 8 months ago (4 children), Because the previous paragraph was Kungfu Panda, so our brains were thinking Animation, Then when the topic of Avatar was brought up, we immediately thought of Avatar: The Last Airbender, [–][deleted] 290 points291 points292 points 8 months ago (83 children). [–]Conviter 254 points255 points256 points 8 months ago (38 children). [–]ScottUkabella 4276 points4277 points4278 points 8 months ago* (761 children). [–]PrinceOfStealing 14 points15 points16 points 8 months ago (0 children). Also Dark Souls borrows it's entire aesthetic from Western culture and history. © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. Yeah, wtf, does he think it'd be ok if black people made this game? [–]ObscureQuotation 323 points324 points325 points 8 months ago (24 children). Hardware manufacturers, software developers, and publishers from the video game industry have just presented their new and upcoming products at the Electronic Entertainment Expo 2018 (E3 2018). White folks dressing up in Native American headdresses for Halloween parties. Don't forget to leave a comment, like the video and subscribe to the channel! I'm German and I don't know anyone that's complaining about it. If you want to be safe, just make it clear that your mask’s design was influenced by this specific video game which in turn took inspiration from the real-world examples of Japan. [–]AY_YO_WHOA 101 points102 points103 points 8 months ago (28 children), [–]TSpitty 79 points80 points81 points 8 months ago (25 children). [–]TheUnkindledAsh 66 points67 points68 points 8 months ago (0 children). It's always people trying to White Knight for another culture or ethnicity that is supposedly offended but most likely doesn't actually care. [–]DrGhostly 66 points67 points68 points 8 months ago (9 children). There was just so much confusion all around. how people from other countries and cultures feel about certain western media. Ghost of Tsushima arrives at the end of an era. Format: **Spoiler:** >!X Kills Y!< Just really interesting idk, [–]Woodstovia 868 points869 points870 points 8 months ago (93 children). [–]nvmvoidrays 28 points29 points30 points 8 months ago (2 children). Also, Kirby is clearly American because he's so thicc. I plan on playing on hard so I ave to sue the stealth and mechanics to their fullest, hopefully. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 15527 on r2-app-012380b778262e5e4 at 2021-03-15 01:19:41.944206+00:00 running 1ebdfbe country code: US. [–]PervertLord_Nito 51 points52 points53 points 8 months ago (8 children). Ghost of Tsushima by contrast is a wild misfire, [–]APiousCultist 303 points304 points305 points 8 months ago (26 children), "Inauthentic white American's idea of Japan". I’ve tried to learn it repeatedly, thinking “I played flute and clarinet in school, I should be able to figure this out!” Haha. The more you know, [–]astromech_dj 12 points13 points14 points 8 months ago (0 children). [–]Merksman72 115 points116 points117 points 8 months ago (24 children). I don't how anyone could see that as anything other than respect and admiration. Nothing wrong with respectfully wearing a cultures clothing or eat their food or even make it. Getting the emperor to renounce his divinity ended fire bending. Sucker punch has been pretty upfront that the game is nowhere close to being historically (or even culturally) accurate. Rendered by PID 15527 on r2-app-012380b778262e5e4 at 2021-03-15 01:19:41.944206+00:00 running 1ebdfbe country code: US. [–]Dawnspark 12 points13 points14 points 8 months ago (0 children). The latest victim of this is Sony’s exclusive Ghost of Tsushima. The only people that might be upset are people on the internet getting offended on their behalf, but almost never themselves. Of course not. [–]kromem 218 points219 points220 points 8 months ago (31 children). The Legend of Zelda is Arthurian as fuck. I bet that same person loves Metal Gear Solid, a Japanese made game not only set in America but also a critique of American warfare and politics. [–][deleted] 50 points51 points52 points 8 months ago (1 child). Unmarked Spoilers It's also this type of person that Japanese people, in my experience at least (which is very sizeable), feel extremely uncomfortable with. ", [–]inthearticleuidiot 62 points63 points64 points 8 months ago (6 children). [–][deleted] 175 points176 points177 points 8 months ago (18 children). Let's boycott every Assassin's Creed except the one about the French Revolution that was so blah they needed to go back to the drawing board after it. Yeah but how do Italians feel about it? [–]SeptimusAstrum 40 points41 points42 points 8 months ago (17 children). Sure there are some flaws here and there but every "critic" that I follow(YouTube/gaming outlets) have very positive opinion. Kojima's been riffing on American Idealism for years. Cultural appropriation is a morally neutral term. That's how I see it. It is a Japanese take on my culture and the mythological heritage of my people. I'm Japanese. Man, I don't wanna see what he does when he finds out how many films and other media depicting other cultures are made by someone who isn't from that culture. RE7 or Ghost of Tsushima: SCCAN85: 2: 2/13 9:25PM: How has there been no price drop for Ghost of Tsushima yet? Hope the project turns out well! But, yeah, I really question anyone who brings up the politics of TLOU2 negatively while praising Ghost. Read our guidelines for more information! If you acknowledge the real history and significance of these kinds of masks to Japanese people, it helps shield you from criticisms that may arise as a result of people thinking that you’re trying to make a joke of it. Ghost of Tsushima is probably my favorite game of the year so far, personally. Ninjas ffs. So when a TV show or a film or game or whatever shows, references, makes a joke about, or is inspired by my country it's really cool. If that’s what you want to do, nothing is stopping you. Just do you, if your intentions are pure peeps have no right to bitch about cultural appropiation. [–]Pertyrobo 69 points70 points71 points 8 months ago (0 children). The accent is wholly the creation of the voice actor. There are miles upon miles between that and what you're fixing to do. It’s on steam. Go wild. YouTube Ghost of Tsushima Theme Music Flute ww Best Mom Eva Hello. But useless activists that spend 10h a day on twitter and games journalists (that are useless activists), [–]YeulFF132 42 points43 points44 points 8 months ago (1 child). You could make a post saying "I hope everyone finds happiness" and still a handful of people on twitter will manage to be outraged. (self.ghostoftsushima). Japanese entertainment as a whole makes things based on western culture/history all the time, almost as much as their own. What some things that only happen after you finish the game? The reality, there was barely any discussion about this, although I have seen that it has rocked the boat in China where there is a contingent who dont like being cast as the baddies. A growing power entering the industrial age, declaring war on its neighbours and invading a nation famed for its big wall. They hired asian actors to voice I’m assuming. More importantly how does the plumber community feel about it? Third generation Italian here. Please explain. Just because you're not a Japanese studio means you can't make a game dedicated to Japanese culture? Member. Yeah I remember so many people screaming that the flute player at PSX was cultural appropriation. [–]JohnnyReeko 6 points7 points8 points 8 months ago (0 children). Let me explain: That man is one of the … All I've gotten from this is that Ubisoft wants to invade England. Those people are all still there, they're just not running the "new" content they put out. Ghost Of Tsushima Is Being Praised By Japanese Critics (kotaku.com), [–]Conviter 1142 points1143 points1144 points 8 months ago* (181 children), honestly, i find it very interesting to read stuff like that. And unfortunately, that is what has happened, However, as much as I had issues with The Last Of Us 2’s narrative, it was an American story told by Americans, and it had a thematic and tonal resonance as such. Scorsese2002: 12: 2/14 1:33PM: Sense - A Cyberpunk Ghost Story is released. [–]DextrosKnight 33 points34 points35 points 8 months ago (1 child). When an outsider look at our environment, he is looking at something new to him and there's this feeling of fascination that comes with the discovering. I think it is a good thing. As if them liking it is a surprise. [–]HoneyBear55 5 points6 points7 points 8 months ago (0 children). I mean, where was this outrage with all the Assassin’s Creeds? An ambitious, open-world action-adventure game set in 13th century Japan, it’s the last major release to come out exclusively on the PS4 console. For me, cultural appropriation happens when someone either profits from a culture that is not their own to the detriment of members of that culture, or uses a culture in a denigrating way. — If you're looking to team up with fellow Redditors on GoT Legends, please post in /r/gotlegends or use the discord (linked below). I guarantee the vast majority of Japanese gamers are going to go nuts over this game, not in spite of but BECAUSE it's a game made by a western studio depicting their culture. If it were an American made game about Taiwan for example, I could see the argument of appropriation or exploitation of a delicate political topic about a place that doesn’t have its own voice in the medium but Japan is one of the leading countries of video game development. [–][deleted] 69 points70 points71 points 8 months ago (0 children), [–]Qorhat 12 points13 points14 points 8 months ago (4 children). I watched Castle in the Sky not too long ago and I immediately recognised the buildings and architecture of The Slag Ravine. I think you're fine. It’s called metal wolf chaos. Secondly, he's making BIG assumptions and discredting everyone there. It don’t make no sense. It's definitely an underreported part of MacArthur's peace deal. Even the part with the turret arms! Perhaps it's not surprising that we are seeing a rise in the latter as we wage a war against the former. No low-effort content Got a smile on my face when I saw the gameplay for Beyond Good and Evil 2 (Is that still happening?) [–]PBFT 64 points65 points66 points 8 months ago (5 children), Also Gamespot gave it a 7/10 and one of the negatives was that you couldn’t cut down the bamboo. [–]Defilus 5 points6 points7 points 8 months ago (2 children), It's starting to sink in that we'll never get an AC6. Ghost of Tsushima's Jin Sakai is a badass. [–]wimpymist 33 points34 points35 points 8 months ago (2 children). Nothing offensive about it. Can confirm, have Italian family. And that's not including genres that include things like Resident Evil and Metal Gear. [–]th30be 15 points16 points17 points 8 months ago (0 children). REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 11287 on r2-app-087012c704589f488 at 2021-03-15 01:19:38.210905+00:00 running 1ebdfbe country code: US. [–]nybbas 72 points73 points74 points 8 months ago (18 children). Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. And how we would never tolerate someone abusing cable cars, the symbol of San Francisco. [–]Schadenfreudenous 121 points122 points123 points 8 months ago (8 children). [–]StraY_WolF 45 points46 points47 points 8 months ago (0 children). In the year 1274, the fearsome Mongol Empire invades the island of Tsushima, wreaking havoc and conquering the local population. Trying to put myself in their shoes, I imagined a Japanese team making a game historically based in the wild west, or a game set during the American revolution (for each scenario I had to ignore the existence of Red Dead and Assassin's Creed 3), and I thought to myself, that would be pretty damn cool.
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